would any one care to tell me what are the restrictons when looking for a fmic for a uk st185. is any fmic only poss with a cs bumper. as i have seen some oblong narrow ones on wee bay. do they have to have a certain flow rate or capacity?
thankyou

i will get my use of this site.

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I have doen some calcs on intercooler cores and pipes.

A standard St185 is however a bloody poor flowing & cooling device! A FMIC kit of virtually any sort is likely to be considerably better IMHO.

Ideally you shoudl have a large quantity of rows and for them to be shorter to achieve the same overall cooling efficiancy but not being restrictive. A short height intercooler will not provide this. Your required BHp woudl be usefull also what you want to achieve from the FMIC. Going to obig on pipework and core can be as bad as too small IMHO

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There is very little information about the relative performance of different sized FMIC cores. I'm faced with the same dilemma with my ST205. I'll probably end up following the sort of proven spec that Adrian at Fensport uses. He still has his water injection as a back-up if the FMIC struggles to cope.

I don't know if you have fitted a water injection kit but I'd strongly recommend this as a first step. Assuming you have a stock ST185 then the second step would be to fit an FMIC. Hopefully someone with an ST185 on this forum will have been down this route and will be able to help you out with more specific help.

Cheers,

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1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205WRC JDM 269bhp @ 0.9bar
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four Special GT 590bhp @ 1.8bar
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2008 Nissan Patrol GU 3.0L ZD30DDTi 154bhp

DOESNT THE WATER COOLER GO AFTER THE INTERCOOLER AT THE THROTTLE BODY END. AND IF I WERE TO DO AN FMIC WOULD THIS BE REDUNDANT? I WILL GET THE ADDRESS OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT.
WHAT ABOUT ACTUALLY GETTING IT INTO THE BUMPER?
WILL IT BECOME MOD CENTRRAL?
I.E.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/intercooler_W0QQi ... dZViewItem
YTHIS LOOKS ALRIGHT AND MAY FIT SOMEWHERE RATHER THAN A GIANT SQUARE ONE WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET A CS BUMBER FOR.
THANKS

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THIS IS MY 4. THERE ARE MANY OTHERS LIKE THIS ONE, BUT THIS IS MINE.
red st185, running 10 psi all gears, powerflow cat back, and air filter. oh and fab scoop splitters

I presume by 'water cooler' you mean water injection (WI)? Most people install the spray nozzle post intercooler pre throttle body.

If you later fit a FMIC then you will probably find you only need the WI on rare occasions.

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1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205WRC JDM 269bhp @ 0.9bar
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four Special GT 590bhp @ 1.8bar
1989 Van Diemen RF88/89 Formula Ford 1600
2008 Nissan Patrol GU 3.0L ZD30DDTi 154bhp

sorry water injection.

owuld that i/c on the link be a viable option or aree there minimum dimensions ( i understand what dice man says i think)
technically, not that i would, you could relocate your stock ic to the front? and with saying that do i wasnt one with similar dimensions.

would i have to change the hbumper. ne one done wiothout?
thanks

SORRY. one more question.
the air through teh i/c. does it then go into the engine to mix with the jui ce (air/fuel). if so then wont spraying water into it alter the composition and feck up your engine.
what does it actually do?

will i have to get a cs bumper.

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red st185, running 10 psi all gears, powerflow cat back, and air filter. oh and fab scoop splitters

The FMIC shown is probably not going to work in my opinion. Being designed for a diesel it probably will not have the flow capacity required for a turbo petrol.
Generally it's going to be a case of bigger is better (within reason) up to something like the IC cores shown on the Fensport website
However, if you do opt for a smaller core, similar to the eBay one but designed to handle the flow of a 300hp+ engine then you might get away with the stock bumper.
I know that "marky mark" on the OC forum had something along these lines behind a stock bumper but it wasn't connected up last time I saw him a long time ago. He doesn't seem to be on the oc very often these days but you could PM him on the offchance


I have heard discussions about this but don't recall anyone ever doing it. If JP's calcs are right then it would be sub optimal although better than just leaving it as a top mount lol



Have a read through some of the articles on this site
http://www.aquamist.co.uk/info/document ... /title.htm
Article X is a good start

thankyou

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red st185, running 10 psi all gears, powerflow cat back, and air filter. oh and fab scoop splitters