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 Post subject: Tyre choices - Road car
PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:02 pm 
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As above really. Im sure its been discussed before but im about to order some new tyres.

The car currently runs with Bridgestone Potenzas on the rear and continental sport contacts on the front....

I was thinking of seeing what tyre choices people regard as best for a street car?

I have been advised on Pirrellis but not on which type?

Any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 4:03 pm 
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Hi,

Toyo T1R is great also in wet, and this year i prove the R1R

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This sort of question will get a whole pile of opinions!

My 2p -
Goodyear Eagle F1's
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I've tried all the following and would be more than happy to use them again:
Goodyear Eagle F1 GSD3s
Yokohama Parada Spec II
Toyo Proxes T1Rs (albeit wear quicker than the 2 mentioned above).

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I tend to favour pirelli as a manufacturer as I've never had a bad Tyre in 25 odd years. Goodyear do some superb tyres but also some poor ones. Luck of the draw which plant they were made I guess.

For all year road use I favour p6000 on a 16" rim. Not the best in hot & dry and a bit squidgy feeling but very progressive and predictable. Easy to drive on without having to watch for damp patches etc
For tarmac use mostly dry pzero is possibly more to most people's liking.

For cheap stuff kumho isn't bad but tend to err on the soft side so more of a winter Tyre.
Currently. Running some £50/corner ones from bathwick
on the front which are very good certainly holding their own against Yokohama on the back.

Only tyres I avoid like the plague are falcons. Very hard sidewall so they feel solid and inspire confidence as long as you never reach the grip limit. Only tyres I've ever known to make a 4 bounce round a corner.

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Falken FK452 are the danglies in my opinion, and that's after having 3 sets of Eagle F1's fitted.


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Thanks for the opinions guys. My mate is a mobile tyre fitter so fitting will be cheap as if not free - plus i get a good price on whatever tyres I want, providing he can get them.

I was thinking of either the;

Toyo Proxe T1R's
Goodyear eagle F1's
Pirelli P Zero's.

Looking for superb grip in the dry, and as decent grip as i can get in the wet....

Dont want much do I.

Of the above - which would people say were the best all rounders.

PS i know this comes fown to peoples personal preferance but i thought id ask anyway!!


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Pzero pretty much line up with what you want, but never tried the others to compare. Have used lesser goodyears and some have been better than equivalent pirellis, others have nearly caused me accidents by letting go unexpectedly.

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Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3
http://www.etyres.co.uk/tyre-tests?term=goodyear-eagle-f1-gs-d3

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Another vote for the Goodyears here.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:51 am 
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my vote goes for the Falken FK 452's, superb tyres.

30-40 minute flat out stints on snetterton's new 3mile circuit and they were superb, no understeer and i pushed the car extremely hard on the track and they performed fantastic, and the weather was average at best too so my vote for a good value and superb performance..

falken fk-452


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Used to have Pirelli P7000's. Nice tyre, but wears very fast. Had some super hard Regal shite on for 3 years. No grip, buy very long life. Would never buy/recomend them.
Now on Toyo T1R, like them alot. Next time maybe look for a tire that has no V- in the rubber. It is more noisy than asymetric tyres. Never used the other tyres.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:26 pm 
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i'm still very happy to reccomend Avon ZZ3. had two sets of them in total on the car.

very good grip in the dry, and wet was very predictable as well. Avon of course make lots of track tyres, and being british made suits our conditions well. and our tracks. a mid priced tyre that will match a high price tyre in my opinion.

you, will need quite high pressures tho. ie. i was using 38 to 40 front, depending on time of year and 37 on the rear for normal to sometimes fast road use. if you do drive hard ( dont jsut say it ) you'll need approx 10psi more in the tyre, ie. a lap of the ring, and you should be pumping them up. or a session on a track.

people who dont do such things... and then complain a tyre is going off, or overheating..... well they dont understand whats going on, and prehaps you shouldnt be listening to their opinions to what is good or not.

first thing in sorting out handling.... alignment, then tyre pressures, only then should you consider anything else.

a decent temp gauge is your friend for setting tyre pressures ! look for less then 3 degree celsius diff across the width after a sample run.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:56 pm 
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Bridgestone R070's :)

Good:
Designed specifically for 4wd/300bhp japcars (released in 2005, developed for the Impreza, new scoobies still roll off the forecourt on them)
4wd "Road tyre" of choice for MSA sprint competitors.
Good grip in dry & wet- big chunky tread blocks, but big deep grooves to move rain too.
Progressive on the limit.
Look fairly agressive.

Bad:
£110 a corner
Only in 225/45/17
noisey on motorway
A bit softer than some other road tires, but not trackday tire soft.

I had Goodyear Eagle GSD3's & found my contemporaries at sprints ran these on their sccobies/evos/pulsars...so I changed over and haven't thought about going back since. I'd say I get approx 10k road miles +12 sprints out of a set.

It all depends what you are after from a road tire, but if you are prepared to offset cheapness, quietness & longevity to gain allround grip without having a soft , then this is the tire of choice....IMHO ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:37 pm 
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Interesting on the Falkens & Bridgestones. Both I believe have stiff sidewalls which should help with yee-haa driving styles :-) and hopefully prevent excessive wear to the edges. This is normally at the detriment to road noise.

Ms D's Civic Type-R runs OEM bridgestones and swapping back to these from Toyos made a massive improvement in feel and turn in at the expense of road noise.

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