www.gt4dc.co.uk
Maintain, Modify and DRIVE your GT-Four


It is currently Mon Apr 29, 2024 6:47 am




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 28 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:43 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Hello all,

I have been on the GT4OC for a while, working on my ST205 project car.

I have had many other cars, mostly small pocket rockets including a 150bhp Charade GTti and an injected supercharged hillman imp.
I got to the end of my tether with the imp as everything started to break because of the torque the engine was producing, I split it for parts and then was left twiddling my thumbs!

This is where the Celica came in, it was meant to be a short term project to keep me occupied, I can now see it lasting a long time on my drive, a very characterful car that has earnt it's place on the drive :D

So this is the story so far -

Good morning chaps,

I have been looking for an ST205 for quite some time, putting in a concerted effort since seeing one blatting round the roads at the base of snowdon thorugh the snow.

Now I like my projects, and in full understanding of the issues involved I went to look at an ST205 with a slipping clutch yesterday, the result is this -

Image

Yes the wheels don't match, and it is in need of work, but there is a good history file and the slipping clutch led me to finding this in the folder -

Image

Hmmmm, Cusco super single clutch kit? No wonder it is worn out! A sintered plate on a road car is generally a bad idea, slipping to get out of junctions is going to rape the plate in double time :?

Either way, it has some shiny bits, C-One coilovers (in need of a rebuild, might tackle this one myself), C-One exhaust, recent cambelt and service, Recaro seats in jolly good condition, all in all not too bad.

Image

Image

So bits to sort out, are wheels (get those pesky subaru speedlines off the back end), this little bump on the drivers rear quarter -

Image

Image

And start looking into the what wheres and hows of this Cusco clutch.


First mechanical items to be attacked were the coilovers, I could see that a couple were leaking and knowing from literature the complexities of the SS front end, I started with the rear McPhersons.

Here is the image the greeted me once the wheels was removed -

Image

C-One coilover set up, I removed the assembly and started to dissasemble and clean, using my old favourite bio washing powder, nasty for your skin, but excellent on oils! -

Image

The results -

Image

As you can see, here is the reason it was leaking -

Image

Badly pitted shaft! They have been moving around in the housing too, gland nut was not properly tightened -

Image

So I am now looking to replace the damper inserts, probably all round TBH, I have the dimensions but I have no idea where to get replacements as I want non adjustable items with a reasonably complient damping rate, the car is to be a B road stormer not a track tart! :lol:

I also had a quick look at some of the paint issues, first up the passenger wing mirror, the finish was terrible with what can only be described as 'hatchings' in the surface -

Image

10 mins with two grades of cutting compound and a polish, the not perfect but much better results -

Image

Finally, why milky? Well while I was messing around getting my hands dirty, my wife was cleaning the inside, and under the spare wheel she found no less than 9 of these -

Image

So for concealing 9 mini milky way bars, it shall be known as milky from now on :?

Keep your eyes open for updates of a more thrilling nature soon,

Cheers,

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:44 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Right bit of an update,

First things first, Milky ate my mobile phone! I was working on the car when it started to rain, so I gathered up the tools and made my way back indoors for a coffee, I thought ‘just check gt4oc on my phone, see whats going on…..hmmmm, where is my phone?’ Well after a bit of a search I realised I had left in under the bonnet of the celica, right under the hinges, screen up! Balls! Quick call to the insurance company (house phone!) and it is off to the menders ;)

So please excuse the poor photos, I had to dig out my old digi cam and it seems to have deteriorated over time (I think tech has moved on but I’m in denial!).

So progress over the past couple of weeks has included a lot of calculations to confirm my suspension and spring choice, I have ended up ordering BC’s with a 6/4kg/mm spring rate. Here are the excerpts from the suspension thread I had –

Quote:
I could go for stock setup for compliancy, but it will still cost £500 - £550. Coilovers are £600 and I can choose the spring rate I want FOC, so that is the main reason I will be going for them.

So my what spring rate should I go for? My initial thoughts are that the vertical stiffness of the car should be as low as possible without bottoming out the dampers under hard cyclic compression. Secondly I would like to reduce the ST205’s tendency to understeer one way or another.
Here are the current available systems -

Stock springs - Front: ~2.5 kg/mm Rear: ~2.1 kg/mm
Ratio of 1.19 stiffer front to rear.

Tein uprated springs - Front: 4.3 kg/mm Rear: 3.7 kg/mm
Ratio of 1.16 stiffer front to rear.

BC Std springs – Front: 8kg/mm Rear: 5kg/mm
Ratio of 1.6 stiffer front to rear

Looking at the numbers, the stock set up is 20% stiffer front to rear, this is directly in line with the weight distribution of the car being 60/40. The Tein setup is 16% stiffer front to rear making the rear of the car stiffer in proportion, hopefully reducing understeer, but as a consequence the vertical stiffness increases making the rear ride bouncy. The BC setup is 60% stiffer front to rear! This theoretically will make the car understeer more than the stock setup and increase the vertical stiffness of the car by 320% at the front, as far as I am concerned this is too much for my requirements.

So, I think that I will order 6kg/mm front and 5kg/mm rear, this should maintain the stock 20% front to rear stiffness ratio. Then to reduce inherent understeer without sacrificing supple vertical movement I will re-drill my rear arb to move the connection points inwards, effectively stiffening it up and reducing understeer.


Quote:
Right, I have with a little assistance from one of my colleagues (cheers Ed!) come to a conclusion on the initial springs rates, using some simple mathematics and his experience in setting up different cars for different conditions.

The best starting point for choosing springs rates is to work out the natural resonant frequency of the front and rear axles, this can be determined using the sprung and un-sprung masses.

Initially the standard suspension was analysed, this is using a UK car and averaging the corner weights, standard springs etc.

Image

As you can see they are not matched, resulting in the front and rear of the car reacting in a different manner over the same bump. The aim when setting the car up is to achieve the same frequency front and rear.

Now the standard suspension frequency is known I can design the system around it, using the following calculated figures for previous cars Ed has set up –

106 GTI (fast road) - 1.87Hz - Perfect for B roads, wobbly on track
205 GTI (Gravel) - 2.0Hz - Very nice setup for real world road use, a bit soft for track and sticky tires
205 GTI (Hillclimb) - 2.99Hz - Bit to stiff and jolty on roads,
My escort (Mental, was 4age20v now SR20, gotta explain ed!) – 2.4Hz ish - Feels very good on roads, might be slightly soft for hardcore tracking
Civic (Britcar) - 3.5Hz - To harsh for fast road use without skipping, could do with being a bit stiffer when stickier slicks were used
Lotus 211 (BritishGT) - 4.5Hz - Proper slicks and a bit of down force

My car as I keep bleeting on about, will be a B road car, set up for fast road use on give and take roads around the midlands and wales. I will be aiming for around 2Hz, to reach a viable spring rate I have gone for 2.05Hz, this equates to 7Kgf/mm front and 4.6Kgf/mm rear.

Image

So after going through the calcs here are the results for the other springs and suspension systems available –

Stock springs - Front: ~2.5 kgf/mm Rear: ~2.1 kgf/mm
Front – 1.34Hz
Rear – 1.4Hz

Tein uprated springs - Front: 4.3 kgf/mm Rear: 3.7 kgf/mm
Front – 1.63Hz
Rear – 1.86Hz

BC Std springs – Front: 8kgf/mm Rear: 5kgf/mm
Front – 2.22Hz
Rear – 2.16Hz

ST205 Bilstein Coilovers (JohnDGT4’s) – Front: 14kgf/mm Rear: 7kgf/mm
Front – 2.94Hz
Rear – 2.55Hz
(Assuming standard corner weights, I’m guessing this car has had a little more done to it though!)

So, what do you guys think? This is only the first step of course, the dampers need to be tuned to the springs, as do the ARB’s. But I also have plans there too, initially make the stock items adjustable, then possibly do a system like the citroen xsara WRC car!


I ended up ordering them from Corby Motorsport, the vendor was a pleasure to deal with, delivery time was spot on considering the custom spring rates, and all in it was £600!!!!! They come highly recommended from me :D

So the front end of the car has been stripped of it’s struts, the ball joints were not too bad, I used the big lump hammer to shock the tapers off their seats, took about 40 mins per side to remove. Once side appears to be in very good condition, the other side is in need of a fig8, not too bad though. Both of the upper ball joints need replacements before I fit the new c’overs.

Other than that I have been cleaning and tinkering, the strut brace was removed when taking the top mounts out, it is a really nice C-one unit in CNC’d aluminium, but in need of attention due to corrosion setting in on the ally. I attempted to compound it back, only the main bars responded to this, I think they were lacquered from new, all of the associated bracketry has taken a beating and just would not clean up.

C-One Strut brace –

Image

Condition of brackets –

Image

Image


I decided to get them glass bead blasted, the result is stunning and originally I was just going to lacquer at this point, however I have been reading about home anodising, and as they have come out so good I think I should put a little more effort in, learn a new skill, and give it a go!

Post blasting –

Image

Image

Other than that, a lot of removing components and cleaning (sorry for the blown out picture!) –

Image

And I thought I would just pop this here –

Image

Looks rather good doesn’t it? Might have to give it a permanent home!

I will update over the next few days as I get the coilovers ready to fit, source some spacers for the back end and a set of brake pipes, and fit my new steering wheel ;)

Hope you are all well,

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:45 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Right, finally time for another update! Been a busy couple of months with interviews for new jobs, Christmas etc etc, the result being the Celica coming bottom of the list :(

Now in the new year things are settling down, I have got the job I wanted and am waiting for the contract to arrive, the house is nearly finished ready to go on the market, and the Celica is finally getting closer to being back on it’s wheels.

First of all the last of the items from 2011, I spent a bit of time re-organising the dash and numerous gauges. Initially the defi oil temp / oil pressure / water temp and the omori stepper boost gauges were mounted to the left of the binnacle on top of the dash, in full view of any unsavoury characters and also obstructing my view out.

I moved the boost gauge so that it sat on the column cowl, this was neat and tidy and only obstructed the stock boost gauge and the bottom of the rev counter.

Image

The defi gauges were moved into the glove box, they can be easily seen if required, but also closed away when not needed.

Image

Just after this it was my birthday, I took the day off and my wife and I took our other toy out to stretch it’s legs. It was the last warm day of the year and a week day, the track was so quiet, we were sharing it with two other karts all day, immense fun for £30!

Image

Image

Here is my build thread for the kart if anyone is interested -

http://www.karting1.co.uk/forum/viewtop ... e873cc3ab5

The BC coilovers arrived and the strip down could commence, the car came with C-One coilovers which I am sure, were excellent when new, however the are now tired and in need of replacement. The rears were easy to remove, fronts less so! The tapered joints took a hell of a lot of ‘caressing’ with a big hammer to remove, once off they were treated to a nice new hacksaw blade and the superslut lower parted from the C-One uppers.

The lowers were well corroded after years of sitting under a rally weapon, this gave me a chance to have a go at electrolysis to remove the oxidised surface.

I used an electrolyte made from bicarbonate of soda and water, the power source was a battery charger, and the cathode a large lump of cast iron. Once connected up it was just a case of time.

Image

Image

After a few hours each, the lower legs were in pretty good shape, a bit of a scrub to remove some loose bits and they were ready for welding to the BC lower adjustable legs. At this point I decided to remove a couple of sharp edges with the die grinder, this then turned into a marathon session to remove all the forging marks and remove any stress raisers! Once they were prepped the TIG was busted out for welding action, some parts were pretty hard to access but the final result was acceptable and should be durable.

Image

Once welded the legs were coated in a pre-paint surface preparation solution, etch primed and given a coat of gloss black.

Image

Image

Image

Once the paint had flashed off I used a pair of dividers to scribe a line around Fig8 mounting point, having paint under a bolted joint is a really bad thing. Once torqued up the paint will creep out resulting in the tension backing off and the joint fretting and possibly failing. This scribed line allowed the paint to be removed in a neat fashion around the bolted area and the joint to remain intact.

Image

Image

Both front and rear units were then built up copious amounts of grease to prevent corrosion, the front units fitted with new ball joints, and then fitted to the car.

Image

Old ones off, new ones on!

Image

At this point all of the brakes have been removed, the old perished lines are being sent to a hose specialist to be re-manufactured with stainless braided hose, but still using all of the original mounting points to prevent the fatigue that has plagued most aftermarket braided hoses. The callipers are all in good shape and have been given a hot de-grease ready for paint.

Once the hoses have arrived the brake system can be rebuilt, rear spacers fitted and the car can go back on it’s wheels! Then it is a new clutch plate and I can start driving it :D

Thanks for reading.

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:45 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Bit more progress, the brake lines finally arrived, although it took quite a long time to sort out the result appears to be very good indeed.

Image

Image

Hosequip have used all the original fittings so that the hoses are properly supported, this should prevent the issues seen previously with braided hoses on ST205’s.

So the build up of the brakes could proceed in earnest, the callipers were sealed and then cleaned in an almost boiling mixture of degreaser and biological washing powder, this stripped off all the grime and grease from years of use.

All of the anti squeal shims, brackets, pins etc etc were also cleaned ready for re-assembly.

Image

Everything was copper slipped for steel on steel joints and greased for steel on aluminium (copperslip on aluminium can cause galvanic corrosion and actually make things worse!), and put back together with new pads –

Image

The threads in the coilovers were cleaned of paint

Image

And the hoses fitted, the joiners needed a little bit of adjustment to fit the coilovers, but only a couple of mm so no major surgery.

Image

Image

The result is pretty neat really, just need to bleed the system and get the car back on it’s wheels.

Finally I also had a sort out in the workshop, got a few bits to sell off I think, too many turbochargers and intercoolers etc!

Image

I need to sort out the clutch next, I cannot decide whether to fit a new sintered plate into the current clutch or fit a new cerametallic one? If I do keep the sintered item do I get a plate imported from Japan for around £300, for get a helix item to fit in it’s place. I am also concerned about using a sintered clutch on the road, they are not really made for changing gear as far as I know?

Hope your all well,

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:46 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Bit of an update, shes back on her wheels!

Todays tasks were -

swap rear calipers side to side (felt proper special, bleed nipples go at the top, not the bottom!)
fit final clip to brake line
bleed brakes
check all nuts / bolts and fit split pins
wheels back on and back on the ground
pop up and down the road to see how she feels!

Well the caliper swap was an easy five minutes, just felt a bit silly thats all!

Next up I had help from the very understanding other half -

Image

And the woof -

Image

She was on the pedals and doing a sterling job, down...up....down....up....down (steady on back there!), dog sat in the sunshine overseeing all :D

I was on the calipers with this little rig -

Image

As long as the pipe is in the fluid, it bleeds perfectly!

After putting a whole litre of Toyota fluid in there, we have an acceptable pedal, still think there is some air hiding in there, might work its own way out via gravity over the coming idle time on the drive?

Then it was wheels on and a pop round the block -

Image

Image

Click V
Image
Click ^

I tell you what, the Cusco plate LSD scared the life out of me, I had no idea it was going to clonk like it does on tight turns, DUNKDUNKDUNKDUNK. I pulled off the drive slowly and promptly reversed it back again, then got out to check for wheels catching coilovers arches etc etc! No sign of any perverse rubbing, so a quick drive up and down the road shows everything is well.

Next up it will be raised by about an inch, its waaay too low at the moment, catches when steering etc. Then I need to think about clutch and getting the geometry sorted out :) fun times!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:47 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Finally time for another update, F1 has officially taken over my life!
I found out 24 hours before take off that we were not going to the Mugello test, leaving a whole long weekend open to seeing wife / friends / tinkering with cars!

I took the Celica to the garage to get it MOT’d ready to drive to the other garage that was going to remove the engine and swap the clutch for me. Well that was the plan, what actually happened was a bit more protracted and troublesome. The clutch that was slipping totally gave out ¾’s of the way to the MOT garage, this left me doing 20mph trying to modulate the torque and keep the car moving.

It failed it’s MOT on wipers and that’s it (I was going to visit Halfords to fit new ones, that went out the window the the clutch!), so the next problem was how to move a car with no clutch? This is where Gem Motoring Assist come in with a flat bed ;)

The car was shipped to TR&D near Nottingham and the removal process started, by the end of Thursday the engine was out and ready for me to collect the clutch and deliver it to C.G.Motorsport in Leeds.

The pinion of the bevel drive is enormous! Compare it’s size to the 3” dump pipe next to it :D
Image

The clutch prior to removal
Image

Upon further investigation it is good that I decided against replacing the plate. When the clutch as been slipping under power, there has been a big heat build up, this had coned both the floating plate and flywheel face by about 1mm each.

Fortunately the process that CG Motorsport were proposing would remove this coning and provide a more suitable plate for road use.

You can see from this picture, the wear across the plate is uneven, with the outer edge completely worn down to the steel of the plate. The springs were also deformed and loose.

Image

Image

The replacement plate has a more durable solid center plate, and is a cerametallic puck type, these have much higher heat capacity that the sintered plate.

Image

To accommodate the thicker plate the surfaces were ground down, making further room, there was not quite enough meat to fit it in, so the cover was spaced using washers. I was not happy with this solution due to the increased pressure on the aluminium.

Image

Image

You can see some of the deformation here –

Image

Initially I came up with using some stainless sheet to make some spacers that would have the same surface area are the original support posts.
I made a cardboard template to try the theory –

Image

Marked it out –
Image

Once drilled / cut / filed / and folded, the first one was tried for size –
Image

As you can see the stainless was very hard to keep flat around the drilled area, resulting in deformation. This was not viable and so another solution had to be investigated.

After some thought, I was looking at some penny washers, these would give a very similar surface area to the original fitting, they could be ground to match the thickness of the washers supplied and tested by CG motorsport, and I had 6 of them!

Image

You can see here the difference in area between the penny washer and the supplied items –

Image

I folded the edge to provide an anti rotation feature, and reduce the width of them, ground the surfaces flat and check thickness between them.

Image

I found that one of them had cracked when folding so this one was replaced with another one –

Image

I also took the opportunity to replace the cover bolts with 12.9 allen head items with a longer thread engagement –

Original –
Image

Replacement –
Image

And the final joint looks like this –

Image

Overall I am much happier with this as a spacing solution, It maintains the original design specifications without any sacrifices.

Tomorrow we will be delivering it back to TR&D ready to be fitted, the only other item that needs sorting out is the release bearing, as the one that was in there was totaled!

Speak soon chaps.

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:47 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Well since the last update, I have finally driven the car! It was a voyage of discovery, as I have not driven the car since the day I bought it, so the first drive was to find out if anything else was wrong that I had not identified.

Whilst I was away on my last trip, Michelle my wife picked up the car from the garage for me, a trip that involved 2 buses, 2 trains and a taxi! Wonderful wife :D

When I got back I could finally drive it, and the result was overall very good. The suspension was brilliant, well damped with good control, stiff enough to not roll but compliant enough to not be jarring. I would compare the ride to my E39 535i sport, just a little stiffer.

The brakes are amazing, I warmed the tyres up, checked for traffic and decided to bed the pads in. The first stop was very good, the second made me feel nauseous! The braking power is incredible!

The engine is strong and has no real issues except for needing more boost :D

The drive train does have some issues, I am unsure how much of it comes from the fact the diff is very tight and how much come from wear, the symptoms are whining / grinding on overrun and heavy vibration on low RPM wide open throttle acceleration.

I took the decision to remove the diff and inspect the bearings and gear setup.

Car in the air –
Image

Diff out –
Image

Hole left! –
Image


This is an excerpt from my investigation -

I have done some more investigation, the diff is out and I have cleaned the crown wheel and pinion. This is what I have learnt so far -

Image

Ring Gear Tooth Nomenclature

A – Top. The top of the gear tooth, a.k.a. Face, Top Land
B – Root. The bottom of the gear tooth, a.k.a. Flank
C – Heel. The outside-diameter-end of the gear tooth
D – Toe. The inside-diameter-end of the gear tooth
E – Coast. The concave side of the gear tooth*
F – Drive. The convex side of the gear tooth*

* Don’t be mislead by the terms “coast” and “drive”, as the ring-gear can be driven by the pinion on either side of the teeth. Which side of the teeth will depend on if the gear-set is standard or reverse spiral and whether the vehicle is going forward or in reverse.

Thanks pirate4x4!

I used a paint pen on the teeth and then ran the gears round under a bit of load.

Image

Image

So this is what the contact pattern looks like on mine, sorry about the photos, it is really hard to get a picture of the marks left!

'coast' side -
Image

'drive' side -
Image

toyota manual says -
Image

Differentials.com says -
Image

Image

So from what I can see, I am between the bottom two images, maybe slightly too much backlash? I have dial gauge on order so I can measure that, I will update when I get back from Monaco :?

So at this point, I have arrived back from Monaco and I can continue the investigation, I put the dial gauge on the case and measured the crown wheel backlash –

Zeroed out -
Image

Rocked back and forth –
Image

So that makes 130 microns, bang on the Toyota set up figure. So I there is nothing wrong with the diff or set up :S
I think that the noises on overrun are to do with the very tight 2 way LSD, having no experience of it it is kinda hard to tell.
The prop was inspected whilst everything was off, the support bearings were fine, CV feels fine, the UJ’s have tight points so I think they are on their way out and are staked in so no replacing them!

So I built the diff back up and filled it with 1100cc of Motul EP90 Mineral oil, LSD specific :mrgreen:
Everything was built back up and put back on the ground.

Whilst at the front of the car I noticed a small exhaust leak around the turbo, and then noticed joy of joys a crack on the down pipe!

So I pulled the down pipe off an then found this –
Image

One cooked gasket!

This is the crack on the down pipe –
Image

You can see it just below the O2 mount, there is actually a small one just above the lower weld too.

You can clearly see the crack from the inside –
Image

I cleaned it up with the dremel, sealed it off each end using tin foil and back purged it ready to TIG weld – Image

The finished article –
Image

I had to weld a small patch on next to the line that covers the crack, the stainless was very very thin in that area an liable to crack again.

I have fitted it back on the car now and it is working fine, just sealed with exhaust paste atm until the gaskets arrive :)

I have been fiddling with the gear shift and mount in the car too, I like to have the gear knob right next to the steering wheel if possible, the celica will be no different. The base mount will be spacered up by 30mm to allow the lower portion of the lever to be extended, then the top will be extended to keep the standard ratio but significantly lengthen the lever.
I was unsure what to lengthen the lever with, then upon inspection I found that the TRD shift knob has a straight bored hole in the bottom…..I wonder…..

Image

Hmmmmm, carbon or titanium????
Image

:D

Apart from that, I have tidied up a lot of the wiring under the bonnet, removing the horn wiring and relays that were added at some point, only after investigating and finding that they were running a relay and fuse to run another relay and fuse!
I have also tidied up a lot of the vacuum hosing and simplified the routing :)

Ok enough for now, I think I am going to enjoy driving it for a while :)

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:48 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Good evening,

Had a fun few days Faffing, been driving the car and enjoying it. I had the front wheels spinning out of a junction earlier today, the rear was locked up hard though, the bloody thing flies!

I have had the down pipe off again, spent some time trying to make the flange a bit flatter, cheap chinese parts are that for a reason! It will work fine after a trip to the fly cutter, however I do not have one of those so my bench belt linisher would have to do. It is a lot better but still not perfect, at least it seals with a gasket now! I also found a few more cracks in the stainless, I call it stainless loosely, the 304 grade used is really poor for exhausts suffering from carbon precipitation at elevated temperatures, hence all the cracks.

Now for the fun bit, I have finally had a go at home anodising 8) It has not gone totally to plan, but the aluminium is well protected now and no one got hurt in the process :thumbsup:

Before I start, some of this stuff is proper nasty, if you decide to have a go yourself, take the right precautions and I can hold no responsibility for your own actions :?

I started out with this kit of bits -

Image

And more importantly these protective items -

Image

Yep, double bagged on the glove front, handling some of this stuff is pretty scary :oops: I was fully protected with synthetic clothing thick enough to protect me, and all skin was covered.

The parts were blasted months ago, and kept in a dry low humidity environment, here they were just after vapour blasting -

Image

Image

They need a proper protective coat, I could paint but I have never been very good at that, chemistry is more my thing ;)

They were attached to a couple of bits of 316l stainless for the de-smut, this cleans the surface of deposits and leaves a perfect surface for the anodising to start on. First things first I donned latex gloves, marigolds, and my welding helmet....... :confuse: I put about 50g of caustic soda into 4l of water, with all these things always add the reactive agent in to the non reactive, in this case, the caustic soda into the water. Two of the parts were then submerged for 15 minutes, fizzing away gently.

While they were cooking away I prepped the rest of the ingredients, two thin strips of ally to hold the parts in the acid -

Image

I put 2000cc of distilled water into a bucket and then prepped the cathode (aluminium sheet) -

Image

The parts came out of the solution looking like this -

Image

About right, surface successfully etched and ready for the next step, they were washed off with water ready to put into the acid bath, all the way through this process you cannot touch the surface, grease will prevent the process working properly.

I attached the parts securely to the ally strips and then hung them from a piece of steel over the bucket. Once I was happy everything was secure I attached the battery charger to the anode (positive and parts to be anodised) and cathode (negative sacrificial sheet), but not switched on yet.
It was time to start with the battery acid, this was bought from ebay and delivered to my door, incredible! I donned all the safety gear and included a volatile organics mask this time too. Then slowly but surely I added the acid to the water (always add acid AAA!!!!), nothing happened, thankfully :oops:

Then it was time to switch on, initially nothing happened, then I realised that the connection between part / strip / steel / positive charger clip was pretty poor, so I moved the clip onto the strips and it all started to work :)
You can see below, all the gasses fizzing off the cathode, hence the organics mask and lots of windows open, lucky it was a windy day :)

Image

I then left it to its own devices for 60 minutes, when I came back it looked like this -

Image

The reaction had certainly slowed down somewhat, time to get the parts out. The parts came out a lot brighter but no noticeable change in surface finish?

Image

Now this was an unknown, the dyes recommended were unavailable so some ebay dylon was selected, 90's purple 8)

Image

This was mixed into 500ml of hot water and put into a washing up bowl, the bowl was then filled round the outside with boiling water, this would slowly increase the temperature of the dye helping it to take better.

Image

While the dye was taking (I left it for 15 minutes) I stored the acid properly -

Image

The parts were then taken out of the dye and put straight into a pan of boiling water (thanks wifee :) ) They were left boiling for 30 minutes and the result was this -

Image

Image

Hmmmm, well I was not aiming for black? :? The anodising has certainly worked, but I think I may have hard anodised rather than normal, hard anodising will only take black and clear colours? Either that or the dye particles are too large in this dye, a common problem?

The question now is, do I strip the anodising and have another go, or just be happy with black parts? :lol:

I won't have any time next week or weekend as I am travelling to Valencia with work, but the week after I am going to have another go, maybe with some new dye? Did multi colour engine bays also go out of fashion in the 90's :clap: Looks like we might be heading that way!!!

Hope you are all well, and thanks for looking :)

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:48 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
I finally have some time off!

After starting at Cosworth F1 I have had no holiday at all, and only about half of the weekends, so progress on the car has been slow up to this point ::)

So with the start of the FOTA enforced shutdown I have just over 2 weeks off, after visiting friends and family over the weekend it is time to get down to the celica ;)

First of all the aligment had not been done since putting coilovers on the car, with the height change the wheels were pointing in all sorts of directions.
Initially the ride height was upped a little (I know, booooo), it was dragging all over the place and touching wheels to inner arches etc. I went up 30mm at the front and 40mm at the back.

Start point -

Image

Up -

Image

Image

After -

Image

Image

Then the alignment could start, this was the first time I had done a string box alignment, but it is how they set up the F1 cars so it must work, and I have watched it done many times.

I started by getting out 4 axle stands and some string (better with fishing wire, but I don't have any of that!), the front and rear widths were matched, as the alignment is done over the whole axle it would appear that the perpendicularity does not matter?

Image

I then proceeded to measure at the front and back of each tyre to get the toe in / out. It had 12mm (yes!) of toe in!!!!!

After a bit of *bleep* about I got to 1.5mm of toe in, certainly feels a bit more stable now :D

Image

Next up I decided to try and improve the controls, highest on the list was getting the gear lever a little closer to the steering wheel. As per the previous post I had some carbon tube, this was a perfect starting point as an extension to the lever. The issue with doing this was the increase in lever travel was unacceptable.
The solution? A quick shifter.
Problem? Unavailable.

Time to get cutting!

The ratio for the stock lever is 2.54 for both the front to rear bowden cable and side to side bowden cable. I wanted to reduce this slightly to around 2, even when the lever was extended by 200-250mm.

I cut the kink out of the stock lever to get it closer to the driver, then added a section below the pivot to increase the ratio -

Image

This was then TIG'ed back together -

Image

Image

The issue now was that the bottom of the lever was so long it fouled the body! So the pivot needed moving up, after a bit of searching through the scrap bin I found some 3mm plate and a bit of stainless tube. The tube was cut to 45mm and inserted below the socket for the ball. The upper mounting point then needed securing to the lower lever base, a pair of extension brackets were fabricated to fit, not my best work but they do the job intended.
A pair of spacer tubes were fitted to prevent the base collapsing inwards when bolted up.

Image

Image

Image

Image

After a bit of clearancing with a dremel (the lever was fouling on the base a little in 1st / 2nd), the unit was finish fitted to the car -

Image

Image

The lever height is not fixed yet, it will take a little bit of adjustment, but I am quite happy with the result, much closer to the steering wheel -

Image

Today, I decided that the car was in need of a heat shield for the turbo / manifold, it was missing the stock item when I bought the car and had a piece of chequer plate in its place, mmmm tasteful!
I had an old motorbike under seat heat shield in the garage, it is made from 5 layer nimbus aluminium, perfect for the job. A template was made from the trusty cereal box

Image

This was transferred onto the nimbus -

Image

After a bit more *bleep* around with a hammer / dolly / shears, it was fitting quite well. I folded the edges over to prevent shredding my hands to pieces, and then prepared a bracket to hold the base away from the turbo -

Image

This was pop riveted on to the shield -

Image

And the whole lot fitted back on -

Image

Image

Pretty happy with it, again not my best work but it will do the job required of it, just not very pretty!

At this point my hayfever got so bad I decided to go indoors and sulk, I mean plan for the coming days!

More tomorrow 

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:49 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Well yesterday I had by first go a some proper bodywork spraying, one rear wing, and the sill / lower wing on the other side.... in silver metallic with a lacquer...... outside :D

It did not go entirely to plan, but the car is now all the same colour and the finish is not catastrophic. I just have to be patient and see how it looks after feathering in and a cut / polish.

Got up early this morning, wiped the dew off the roof of the celica, masked it up and then proceeded to spray it black! The finish is pretty even, I just need to wait for it to harden over the coming week and then cut it back to a shiny finish :) :clap:

The battery box has arrived already! It fits where intended too, so that will be going in today freeing up lots of space for the straight intake 8)
And on that note, I have ordered the 70mm pipe to run between the box and turbo, it is this stuff -

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/70mm-2-3-4-BL ... 43aa286787

Should be ideal for the turbo intake side.

So as it stands, the items left on the list before the retro rides gathering next week are -

Smooth in painted sections (silver)
Cut and polish painted sections (roof and sill/wing)
Paint rear numberplate panel black
Paint bonnet grill black
Fix in battery box (behind passenger seat)
Wire in kill switch and battery
Build air box
Fabricate straight intake
Put extra tabs on heat shield
Modify gear stick gater to fit over quick shifter
Buy and fit blanking plug for dump valve take off
Replace radiator top hose (the reinforcement is failing inside I think)
Find clicking noise on driver side front (sounds brake related?)
Give the car a damn good wash / clay bar / polish / wax!

I will keep you all up to date over the coming days :D

Cheers

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:50 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
I have been jolly busy again!

The weather has been good so the past few days have been spent rubbing back and painting the drivers rear wing, passenger sill and lower rear wing, and the roof!
The finish is not perfect, but the sides are now all the same colour and the roof is black! I will get some more pictures as soon as we have flatted it back and given it a cut / polish :D

Some progress pics -

Image

Image

Image

Image

Mechanically, there has been lots of progress, lots of parcels in the post including these items -

Straight intake hose -

Image

Can anyone tell me what this is for??

Image

Blanking plug for the DV outlet :D -

Image

We have also had 4m of 300amp cable, a battery box, and some cable terminals. I pulled the battery and the airbox out, leaving a biiiig old hole in the engine bay 

Initially I whipped up a quick catch can using some hose barbs and a sigg bottle, this will need some kind of filter / outlet and some wire wool to fill it with.

Image

The new battery cable was installed to the original battery wires and correctly insulated. A location for the catch can was selected and a spring clip bolted in -

Image

I found the old filter off the supercharged imp and popped it into the engine bay with the new hose -

Image

Image

Inside the car the battery box was put behind the passenger seat, a cut off switch was fitted to the top of the box and the wires made up ready. The only thing missing now is a terminal for the negative side, and putting the strap on to hold the top down 

Image

Image

Silicone protection for the wires going into and out of the box -

Image

Finally I decided to give the other brackets for the strut brace a quick coat of clear to protect the until I can have another go at anodising. The other braces were given a quick polish and the whole thing assembled and fitted -

Image

Image

So this is where we started -

Image

And this is where we finished -

Image

Beautiful!

So the list now looks like this -


Smooth in painted sections (silver)
Cut and polish painted sections (roof and sill/wing)
Paint rear numberplate panel black
Paint bonnet grill black
[strike]Fix in battery box (behind passenger seat)
Wire in kill switch and battery[/strike]
Build air box
[strike]Fabricate straight intake[/strike]
Put extra tabs on heat shield
Modify gear stick gater to fit over quick shifter
[strike]Buy and fit blanking plug for dump valve take off[/strike]
Replace radiator top hose (the reinforcement is failing inside I think)
Find clicking noise on driver side front (sounds brake related?)
Give the car a damn good wash / clay bar / polish / wax!
Change oil
[strike]Clean strut brace bars
Lacquer billet strut brace parts[/strike]

More tomorrow :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:50 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Bit more progress :)

I got a negative terminal from halfrauds so the battery box could be finished up, it is very neat and works perfectly :D

Image

Next I tried to get the gater and plastic cover round the quick shift gear linkage, not happening :(

Image

The issue was the left to right linkage touching the surround, a bit of dremel action later and we had clearance -

Image

The result looks pretty factory, just the way I like it :)

Image

Might need a little height adjustment, but it all works just the way I wanted it to ;)

All of the rest of the time has been spent colour sanding the roof, it took ages and is a little thin in places (it is just halfrauds rattle cans), but it is shiny and looks pretty good I think :)

Michelle my good wife also helped :)

Image

Image

I started to compound it with some G3 -

Image

Image

The result looks pretty good I think?

Image

Image

Still needs a wax but I want to do that as late as possible before retro rides gathering :)

Finally I had a quick tidy up of the wheels, they look a little better, although they are still in need of a refurb. The only issue with that is the stickers, I really don’t want to lose them, even if they are yellow!

Before -

Image

After -

Image

So the list now looks like this -


[strike]Smooth in painted sections (silver)
Cut and polish painted sections (roof and sill/wing)[/strike]
Paint rear numberplate panel black
[strike]Paint bonnet grill black
Fix in battery box (behind passenger seat)
Wire in kill switch and battery[/strike]
Build air box
[strike]Fabricate straight intake[/strike]
Put extra tabs on heat shield
[strike]Modify gear stick gater to fit over quick shifter
Buy and fit blanking plug for dump valve take off[/strike]
Replace radiator top hose (the reinforcement is failing inside I think)
[strike]Find clicking noise on driver side front (sounds brake related?) )[/strike]
Give the car a damn good wash / clay bar / polish / wax!
Change oil
[strike]Clean strut brace bars
Lacquer billet strut brace parts[/strike]

More tomorrow :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:51 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
Well we had a brilliant weekend at retro rides gathering, the car was packed up on friday morning, the dogs sent to the kennels and we set off about 2:30pm taking the Fosse Way, a brilliant road, fast and flowing with plenty of overtaking opportunities

Image

We encountered a bit of friday afternoon traffic about Stow on the Wold, it was the first time I had driven the car in traffic with the paddle clutch, it was not nice! :lol: Judder judder go!

The other side of the village open B roads were the name of the game and what the car has been spec'ed for, the suspension is immense on these bumpy twisty roads, firm and well damped. The twittering from the intake and popping from the exhaust add to the drama, and the new short / long shifter really make the drivers seat a fun place to be :)

We arrived and the camp site (on a hill and of clay type soil) was water logged from a days rain, all that work cleaning became a bit of a joke, on the bright side the celica behaved as though it was dry, we trundled around stopping to say hello to friends we had not seen in a year and to pick a place to pitch up. Not once did the GT4 slide, wheel spin, or behave anything but the rally weapon it is :clap:

By this time the sun had come out and the wet field was starting the slow process of drying out, we picked a good spot and started to put up our new tent. This was the first time it had even been out the bag, we wanted something that was big enough to stand up in and had plenty of space for friends to be in the dry for drinks and general guffaws :)
What we ended up with was mental, it is actually the biggest tent I have ever seen -

Image

Bonkers!

Now Friday night was a real blur, we had six close friends round to what became known as the “Bedouin Mansion” for Chilli and drinks, this started a bit of a theme, drinks :D
Michelle my wife had put some ginger beer on to brew whilst I was away working last time round, this was just over 3 weeks before RRG2012, after a few calculations with Jon we came to a figure of 8%ABV. Lets just say my memories of the Friday night are patchy at best! :D

Saturday I was feeling a little off colour, Michelle drove the ST205 with me in the passenger seat to Shelsley Walsh, we had a lovely day watching monster hillclimb cars smashing the 30’s sec barrier.

I took a few photos once back at Prescott -

Image

Image

Image

Image

I had built a small spit for our BBQ, so dinner was a 2kg rolled pork loin, cooked for 5hrs over the embers 

Image

One more picture taken by a friend of the campsite on sat night, beautiful photograph -

Image

Showday on Sunday is something Michelle and I don’t get to see, we work to help keep this wonderful show going, between us we guide cars coming back down from the top of the hillclimb into their respective lanes ready to go back to the start line again. It is non stop all day but well worth it, we meet a lot of people and see lots of cars.
One perk is that we get a guest pass for the hillclimb, the down side is finding time to use it! I got one run up the hill just after the lunch break, proof! -

Image

The start was very good I thought, first gear, handbrake on, 5krpm, find the bite point on the clutch and load up the drivetrain, get a little boost, and then simultaneously floor throttle dump clutch and let off handbrake. The result was a very hard start, it pulled straight and true at 1bar with no issues, that clutch is awesome!
I took most of the run very easy, I did not want to bin it on my first go (unlike the R33 skyline driver, off the steep bank last turn on his first run!).

Image

The drive home was uneventful, I did get a chance to show an RS4 which way was up, jolly funny seeing his face as I slowed to let him pass ;)

So where does this leave us?

I think I will be keeping the car longer than I first anticipated, it has got under my skin! The brakes are excellent, the engine has character and punch, driving position is excellent, it grips the same in the wet as it does the dry. Yeah, can’t fault it.

So as it is running well and not broken, I guess it is time to fix it!

The main aims are -

400whp
Less weight over the front wheels
Simplify the turbo system

I am planning to do a split radiator system, a half width triple core Honda radiator, and a half width 100mm core intercooler, similar to Don Boyaks car but on a budget (as all my projects are!).

Image

Image

The theory is that usually our massive radiators are covered up with the charge cooler radiator and only a twin core unit. So a half width triple core unit would be just as capable as the full width standard unit.

The intercooler will be an ebay special used for the core, end tanks cut off and new ones made to suit the location / application.

This will be accompanied with AC removal, new PS / gearbox coolers, and a frame to mount all the new coolers and get rid of more weight from the front end.

I will be fitting one of the IHI RX6d’s that I have available to me, this should provide enough puff to reach my 400whp goal.

Image

A set of 850cc injectors, fuel pump and swirl pot to suit, and then a new piggyback controller to modify fuelling curves to suit.

Watch this space :)

J


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:52 pm 
Offline
Clubman

Joined: Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:46 pm
Posts: 139
Location: North Yorkshire
Car Model: ST185 CS/RC
Welcome to the DC.

Stephen

_________________
1993 Carlos Sainz 2939, Forged, Apexi RX6B turbo with external wastegate. MOTEC M4, AFPR and 800cc injects. 3" exhaust, +1mm valves.ST205 cams. Rays 8.5" x 17". 205 rear subframe. Bilstein coilovers. 205 brakes.TRD diff


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:56 pm 
Offline
New Poster

Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:02 pm
Posts: 38
Car Model: None
So that is it, 14 months work in a few posts!

I am very inspired by Mr Boyack's car, the work going into that is just beautiful, unfortunately I am on a strict budget due to my wife being in full time education, so everything is home brewed DIY ;)

I will keep the thread updated as and when progress is made, although the next three months I have 6 days off in total (3 weekends) so not a huge amount will be happening :D

Thanks for looking,

J


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 28 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 129 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group