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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:46 pm 
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Is it possible to install SARD 800 injectors into a standard 205 fuel rail?
Are there any supporting mods required?
I'm thinking more injector harnesses/electrical.
I guess an uprated Fuel Pump, FPR and standalone ECU to control would be useful.
Any info. greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:55 pm 
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It's plug and play from an injector perspective but you will certainly need an ECU

I'd recommend getting a new set of seals (they are listed in the part number post). They're not too much money but well worth it to avoid fuel pouring over a hot engine incidents

I think JP and I had the swap down to about an hour using thw Williams wiggle method ;)


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Nigel,
1) Check the part nos sticky - I listed the part nos and maybe the costs of the injector seals.
2) I may have a used set for sale. (if robbie carries on avoiding me :-) )
3) The williams wiggle was a case of "give the laziest person the most difficult task and he will come up with the most efficient way to do it"

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:00 pm 
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Thanks guys.
Actually info not for me :oops:
Said I would ask on here and get a proper, accurate and assured reply.
Will pass the info on.
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Oh and what steve said - you can't run 800cc injectors on std ECU (well you can but it will overfuel by erghh about 35% at all times and kill yoru engine)

You need to get the low impedance, 800cc side feed injectors for them to be plug & play. IIRC Sard also do another model that is close specs but high impedance. (don't buy these!)

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:39 pm 
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I'm disappointed Nigel I thought you'd hit the BIN button again!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:13 pm 
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Somebody beat me to it :(

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I have a set for sale m8 :-)

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:34 pm 
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Very tempted but really have other priorities at the moment.

e.g.
Gearbox swap booked in for next week.
Rear control arms gone for powder coating. Hopefully (time permitting)Edge Performance are kindly going fit with Poly bush kit.
C-ONE rear diff mount to fit.
CUSCO under-brace to fit.
TEIN coilovers to fit and get setup.
All before the next round at FW :roll:

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So how's the 185 build coming along Nigel? :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:06 am 
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"rear arms, powdercoating"

Adjustablised (TM) I hope!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:27 pm 
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So how's the 185 build coming along Nigel?

Slowly but surely.
Saw my engine builder on Saturday morning and dropped off a 205 gearbox. This is going to be rebuilt with the C-ONE gear set (gears 1 to 5).
The head is back after having the valves reseated.
Fitting everything back together to take shim measurements before ordering Mr T shimless buckets.
Popped into Edge Performance Saturday afternoon.
Expecting a call sometime this week to check things over. :D

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"rear arms, powdercoating"

Yes - better than painting them - only need to do it once and can high-power jet wash them....they'll be red to match the arb :oops:

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Adjustablised (TM) I hope!

Yes - Front adjustable TM.
Need to find somewhere that can setup suspension properly.
Any ideas where?

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Any decent tyre repair centre equipped with laser alignment can do the fornt and rear toe-in. I guess if you've fitted adjustable top mounts you'll want to check the camber. Also, if you have adjustable spring platforms you could check and adjust the corner weights. Having said that, tyre centres don't normally do this detail. JEMS can set up suspension but then of course being in Daventry they're not exactly local. I got the Elise done by Pilbeam but they're even further away in Bourne, Lincolnshire.

A more practical alternative may be for me to check with my camber gauge then get the toe set by a local tyre centre with laser gear.

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I'd hertily recommend DJ for suspension tweaking


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So what kit does he have for suspension tweaking and does he have a flat floor :twisted:

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