hmmm- I dont knwo a great deal about this whoel linering ting but:- it must be a right PITA converting a block to "wet liner" type - just machining out the block woudl surely craete a whole world of pain in trying to then ensure the liners sealed in teh water galleries again to stop the water just flodding into the sump? Maybe I am over complicating things

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I have produced a word document to assist searching for replacement 3sgte forged pistons. alas i cannot upload it here


# Double check your intended ebay purchases / part numbers carefully to ensure correct compression ratio.

# Note there appears to be some confusion with certain brands between old and new part numbers for the 3sgte and 2jzgte pistons.

# Observe the relationship between Dome CC + CR + intended gasket thickness and deck height etc.


external link to word doc

>>>> please feel free to copy the word.doc and host here as appropriate.

hope that helps


some links:

Manufacturers websites:

http://www.accralite.com

http://www.ariaspistons.com/catalog/ARIA2006cat.pdf
http://www.ariaspistons.com/toyota.html

http://www.cppistons.com/PDFs/Sport%20C ... actpdf.pdf

http://www.jepistons.com/pdf/2006-sportcomp3.pdf
http://www.jepistons.com/cat/je/sport/t ... sgte.shtml

http://www.rosspistons.com/uploads/toyota_3.pdf

http://www.wiseco.co.uk/_private/Compac ... sc-toy.pdf
http://www.wiseco.com/PDFs/Catalogs/SC06_Toyota.pdf



Suppliers:

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/perform ... ine/Piston

3s-gte pistons on ebay

3sgte pistons on ebay

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If you mail it to me I'll host it for you if you like.

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If it ain't broken.. it soon will be

Thanks, and here you go..

(I've added Jun and HKS too btw, shame on you to forget those - I'll convert it into a nice readable page on my site)

http://www.turbocelica.nl/docs/forgedpistons.doc

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If it ain't broken.. it soon will be

JE have revised there 86.5mm 9.0:1 3s-gte pistons to part number 252061,
the difference being smaller ring widths...
anyone geting these make sure you get the correct rings part # JG1004-3405, as keith and I have had a load of grief sorting this one out..all sorted for now though

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Thanks Pete, first post amended with this new info

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http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/sale/Br ... Shelf/pg/2

appreciate some asistance please.

doe anyone have experience or knowledge of "Brain Crower" CP pistons?


Toyota Celica 3SGTE - 86.5mm Bore, 8.5:1 #249646 $560.83

Toyota MR2 3SGTE - 86.5mm Bore, 8.5:1 #249648 $560.83



thankyou.

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strange one that...the only reason for different part numbers is to obtain the correct CR as far as i can think.

as far as i know usdm celica alltrac headgaskets are 1.4mm. But alot of MR2 talk is that there gaskets are 1.0mm, maybe the pistons are different to obtain the 8.5:1 cr raito as stated between engines?

if you can find an email for them, it may be worth dropping them a line direct to find out?

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morning Pete.

cheers for the reply. i've sent several emails to horsepower freaks over teh last 2 weeks. getting info or assiatance from the sales department is like try to extract blood from a stone

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An interesting article on varying types of pistons
http://autospeed.com/cms/A_109229/article.html

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bit of a resurrection on this but it should be noted if you bore and hone your cylinders properly with the new generation of low expansion alloys available you can't run a 86.00mm piston as Toyota relax bore there engines, which mean they oval with the stresses a torqued down head creates. If you use a torque block when boring and honing like all educated engine builders should using a clearance hone for a forged 86mm piston won't remove the oval you need to go to a 86.25mm piston to get the bores perfectly round. Not many places make these but I commissioned CP Pistons to make custom pistons for me to use in that size. And use those all all my high bhp builds.

Just a bit of piston - engine building information

Tim
TB Developments

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Thanks Tim for sharing the info.

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do what i can

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