Hie guys!!

i just recently bought A 1994 GT4 ST-205 WRC. Now, i know the history about them that only 2500 we're made. So my questions is, how do i look and where, to know witch number she is??

_________________
1994 WRC ST205 Celica GT-FOUR

hi Kat,

most identify their ST205 WRC simply by the VIN number.

There is no other ID plaque or limited build number.

hth cheers


welcome to GT4DC

_________________
ST165 turbo 4WD
ST185 GT-FOUR RC Carlos Sainz Limited Edition 825•5000
ST185 turbo 4WD Carlos Sainz Limited Edition 2541•5000

thank you soo much!!! if i give you my VIN would you tell me how it works??? or is it to dangerous to give away my VIN#

_________________
1994 WRC ST205 Celica GT-FOUR

... i think you may have misunderstood.

Your VIN number = Vehicle Identification Number = frame number = the "WRC build" number -


Example:

UKDM ST205 WRC with VIN = JT164STL5 0002031

Frame number = ST205 0002031

"WRC build" number = 2031

_________________
ST165 turbo 4WD
ST185 GT-FOUR RC Carlos Sainz Limited Edition 825•5000
ST185 turbo 4WD Carlos Sainz Limited Edition 2541•5000

Do remember that as far as we know its 2500 of the first 5000 cars. So the number one above and one below might not necessarily also be WRC's.

Hence it is not really appropriate to say that for example your car is WRC number 2031. Rather that your car is the 2031 ST205 and it happens to be a WRC.

Gary - I think that's why you used "WRC Build".

_________________
GT4DC Events Co-ordinator
1996 ST205 UK

thank you guys and FYI i know what a VIN number is, i just wanted to know how it work for numbers anyways never mind but thanks anyways.

_________________
1994 WRC ST205 Celica GT-FOUR

Never heard that before. Do we know of a genuine OEM WRC spec ST205 with a frame number above 2500?

_________________
Don
GT4DC Chairman
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205WRC JDM 269bhp @ 0.9bar
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four Special GT 590bhp @ 1.8bar
1989 Van Diemen RF88/89 Formula Ford 1600
2008 Nissan Patrol GU 3.0L ZD30DDTi 154bhp

oh yeah yours for example

examples as of the OC register snap shot circa 2007

Owner Number
Paul King 183
Daniel Hughes 766
matthew roberts 884
gary henderson 1109
Bengt Lammasniemi 1113
Dan Barber 1127
John Harrison 1130
James Whiteman 1175
Stuart Ingham 1216
Clarence Tang 1220
Ash Beeson 1246
Stephen Jeeves 1261
1261
Nyle Bassilious 1268
1297
Nathan Lowndes 1312
Christopher Mastin 1371
Richard Radbourne (UK Car) 1412
Graham Nutt (UK Car) 1418
marcus wade 1470
Matthew Harbour 1505
Craig Elder 1586
barry wilkinson 1592
Geoff Tate (uk car) 1601
Paul Wigzell (UK car) 1609
chris smitherman 1705
Paul Sweeney 1720
coxy 1751
Peter Foreman 1816
Steven Dora 1816
matthew byrne 1905
paul beckett 1913
Kennet Climpson 1978
Craig Thompson 1980
colin shiels 1983
Mike Barnes 2007
Jeff Sanderson (UK car) 2031
Iain Gard 2048
Clint Godde (Australian Delivered) 2063
Martin Farrell 2082
Jan-Willem Ligtelijn 2107
Steve Holbrow (UK car) 2117
Mitchell Cunningham (aus. del.) 2151
Barry Schleswick 2212
Lance Platt 2224
Darren Railton 2249
Mark Coakley 2273
Mikey Johnson 2277
colin Mclelland 2277
mike Hopkinson 2318
Col Day 2394
Lee Monckton 2472
LEE FOSTER 2517
Nik Delahunty 2582
Mark CL 2594
Alex Knight 2608
Don Boyack 2617
Willie Deas 2653
Di & Jake Turner 2786
roger cottrell 2811
Craig Lloyd 2828
Gareth Phillips 2850
Andrew Lee 2875
Gary Nicholson 2890
Chris Mann 2894
Jon Barnes 2999
Len Barker 3008
dale hodges 3008
Kaho Cheung 3062
Keith Fleet 3090
James Drake (uk car) 3122
MARKL860TUP 3187
Shaun Kemp 3200
Alan Meneely 3248
Asim Ali 3272
ross davidson 3314
steve hirst 3346
James Gent 3454
Andy Stott 3548
Chris Brain 4095
Alex Sakutukwa 4817

_________________
ST165 turbo 4WD
ST185 GT-FOUR RC Carlos Sainz Limited Edition 825•5000
ST185 turbo 4WD Carlos Sainz Limited Edition 2541•5000

Gary, you are an uber geek!

My JDM is an 'early' frame number in the 1400 range but of course the frame number prefix is different to the UK spec where you quite rightly point out mine is above 2500. The other assumption of course is that the numbering starts at 0001 The lowest number on your list is 0183. My experience is that a lot of people claim they have a WRC but its actually a standard ST205 retrofitted with a WRC wing.

If your list is indeed all genuine OEM WRC's then Mike's point is proven.

An anorak will be presented to you in due course I'm sure!

_________________
Don
GT4DC Chairman
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205WRC JDM 269bhp @ 0.9bar
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four Special GT 590bhp @ 1.8bar
1989 Van Diemen RF88/89 Formula Ford 1600
2008 Nissan Patrol GU 3.0L ZD30DDTi 154bhp

thank you Don


FYI the VIN / frame numbering does NOT start at 0001

The table represents frame# & build month data taken directly from the EPC:

_________________
ST165 turbo 4WD
ST185 GT-FOUR RC Carlos Sainz Limited Edition 825•5000
ST185 turbo 4WD Carlos Sainz Limited Edition 2541•5000

LOL

Interesting point about the frame numbers starting at 1001 I didn't know that.

_________________
GT4DC Events Co-ordinator
1996 ST205 UK

i have the strut bars, the water injectors the big intercolor everything that the wrc has!!!!!!

anyways.

_________________
1994 WRC ST205 Celica GT-FOUR

I noticed Don doing some up skirt voyeuring @ Le Mans to see if a 205 is a WRC or not.

_________________
René - Carlos Sainz 2433•5000
Turbocelica.nl | ST185 CS restoration and full rebuild

If it ain't broken.. it soon will be

my brothers WRC is under 2500, cant remember the exact number

Hey Gary!!! That is my car you quoted above
Thank you for the infamy... infamy... they got it infamy

_________________
Previously a UK WRC & a CS
Now...a 13/60 cv herald ,a Honda CR-Z and an Amica