Im going to replace my brake lines as mine are starting to perrish. It looks like under the rubber surround that these are already braided.

Question is - are they braided as standard, if they are i will replace with standard issue

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"And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, and the earth brought forth grass and the Rastafarians smoked it."

Hi Robbie - as far as I know m8 the stock ones aren't braided no. Fennies do a braided hose kit or you could get a good garage/shop to make you up a set using BF Goodridge parts for about the same using the stockers as templates - thats how mine were done.

Cheers,
Mark

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Mark - 94 Red Jap ST205 WRC - Gone but not forgotten
'06 Blue Merc E320 CDi v6
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the stock flexi hoses do have a braid reinforcing within the hose.

they are not as good or the same as fully braided hoses though.

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Pete
ST185
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Someone actually does them off the shelf. Possibly Goodridge?

Goodridge do them but they do not have the mounting brackets to guide the hose around the superstrut, nor does it have the calliper locating lug on the calliper bango fitting...

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fensport do them, ive fitted a set before and i wasnt overly impressed with the way they fitted together and the routing they took, seems they could of been made and routed better.

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i heard the same, when i went to get some ages ago adrian told me they had stopped sellign them.

Unfortunately the braided stuff uses olive type end connections which seem to fail quite quickly if you have to bend to the hose. Mine leaked on my St185, Mikes leaked on his St205. Personally I woudl replace with new stock or get some custom made crimped & swaged jobbies.

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Silver BMW E46 M3
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why has no-one just made a single piece brake hose from the hard pipe at the top of the inner wing all the way to the calliper?

i cant see its being difficult, replace the banjo bolt in the caliper with an adaptor to fit a JIC fitting or similar the it would route away from the caliper and wheel and go up towards the hard pipe at the top.

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'94 JDM ST205
323bhp and 317lbft @ 1.1 bar.

I would agree with Steve's comments on the braided hose kits. The simplest solution is to fit new OEM hoses. I've had the braided hoses on my blue ST205 for 2-3 years and had no trouble with leaks although the clear plastic over-sleeve had pulled out from the coupling and started to split. The other problem was corrosion of the brackets . I did speak to Adrian about this but he said they'd be too expensive to make with stainless brackets. IMO unless you are planning to track your Four the braided lines will not give you any real benefit.

I know some people who have replaced the OEM lines with stainless steel braided but the issue is maintaining clearance from the strut and wheel under all combinations of steering lock and suspension movement. If adequate clearance is not maintained then this could result in an MOT failure. I would guess this is why Fennies had them made with the standard brackets.

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1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205WRC JDM 269bhp @ 0.9bar
1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four Special GT 590bhp @ 1.8bar
1989 Van Diemen RF88/89 Formula Ford 1600
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well i replacedmine with stock oem parts and when i go on the odd track day ive had no issues with totally standard brake parts so i cant realy complain about the quality of the oem bits.

thanks for the feeback people - i did have a braided set on the old 4 from fennies. I i'll be renewing this time with stocks though.

It does look like inside them that these ones are braided though - maybe just reinforced with something other than wire?

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"And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, and the earth brought forth grass and the Rastafarians smoked it."

Possible that they are constructed like fuel hose with a thread/fabric type reinforcement?

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Yep guess they were mine jamie? need to check them actually as the fitment was a little weird.

The brakes are still working atm tho lol.

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Chris
ST205 with a little help from a ST215...

yea, as i said when i fitted em, they coulf been better thought out, but if yours are still going fine with no probs thens thats good, but giving them a check would be good.


std hoses are internally braided with a fabric of some type, then have an outer rubber hose as a cover, the outer is normallty the one cracks and splits.

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323bhp and 317lbft @ 1.1 bar.