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 Post subject: ST205 Fuel Line Repair
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:30 am 
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I'll just say hi to all before I ask a question as I'm new to this site. I'm Paul, I live in Sheffield. I am very new to changing parts and servicing my own car, so please be gentle with me.

I tried changing my fuel filter recently and ended up twisting the fuel pipe directly under the filter close to the nut.

I was wondering if anyone is breaking an ST205 and has a piece of pipe they can cut off for me, preferably the bit that attatches to the filter? I will obviously pay for this. Cheers, Paul


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Hi Paul,

Sorry to hear of your misfortune. The fuel filters often put up a fight and access makes life difficult

Changing the main fuel line is a pain. If somebody does have the part I'd suggest trying to get a section from under the car up to the filter as you'll then be trying to effect a join in a better accessible spot using compression fuel line fittings

Failing that how much straigt pipe do you have below the nut. You might be able to replace the damaged section only


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IIRC teh fuel line is a solid continous piece from fuel tank to pump and hence is a PITA to replace as 1 piece.

I think Steves idea of of making a flared join under the car is probably best.

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...move this to parts wanted and edit the thread title ;)

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Thank you all for your rapid response replies. I don't mean to be a little dim, but how do I do a "flared join"? The twisted pipe is just under the nut where it fastens to the filter, do I just cut the bad bit off and somehow fit it to the filter? I'll move this to "wanted parts" section now.

I've got a picture of the twisted pipe but I'm not sure how to get it on here to show you, is this possible?

Cheers, Paul


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I've got a picture of the twisted pipe but I'm not sure how to get it on here to show you, is this possible?

You need to register with a picture hosting company like Photobucket.
You can then copy or link the image into the thread.

As far as the pipe is concerned, try giving Mark Mills a call (http://www.st205parts.co.uk/) - he's near Gloucester and should be able to sort you out.

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Diceman wrote:
IIRC teh fuel line is a solid continous piece from fuel tank to pump



Yes, it is...

If you twisted it very close to the nut, you could even cut and flare it, and it won't be too short...

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Paul's beast wrote:
I don't mean to be a little dim, but how do I do a "flared join"?


I once did all brake lines using a flaring tool as a complete amature.

Its not hard with the right stuff.

Depending on sizes you would need

Pipe flaring kit
Flarred pipe nuts
Female to female threaded join to suit nuts
Little bit of fuel pipe. - Is it copper?


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I have managed to get a part of a fuel pipe with connector from Mark Mills, see picture below.

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This is the picture of the twisted one...

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Thank you all for your advice and to Muddy Water for putting me in touch with Mark.

I've just got the lower arms to change on both sides and replace the rear diff mount, well the car is 17 years old this month, more than ready for these parts. :D [/url]


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Glad you got it sorted :)

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Great to see you got this sorted without too much drama Paul! :)

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Hi Kris,

Thanks mate, and thank you for pointing me to this site, everyone is so helpful. :D


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Hi,

I will be attempting to fit the fuel pipe with compression fitting at the weekend (see 1st pic above) and need some advice.

Could you please tell me if the compression ring/olive for the fuel pipe is the copper one and is it the 8mm one I need, also, does this hold the pipe on ok without soldering?

If i'm right, you place the olive ring in the compression fitting, put the fuel line in and tighten the nut from the fuel line, unscrew it, fit some plumbers tape in front of the olive then re-tighten?

Sorry for questions, just need claification with it being my first attempt.


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The olive squashes down onto the pipe when the nut is tightened formind a seal and gripping the pipe. You need to get it right first time as the olive stays clamped on the pipe once fitted.

ENSURE THE PIPE IS CLEAN AND HAS A CLEAN CUT AT THE END WITH ALL BURRS REMOVED.

Normally, you put the nut on the pipe, then the olive with a few mm poking through, then insert into the fitting ensuring enough pipe goes in so that the olive won't be right at the end. You then screw the nut on and tighten up.

Shouldn't be any need for ptfe tape, olives are normally copper so form a good seal on their own.

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