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niblettr
 Post subject: power steering pump
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:45 pm 
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are the power steering pumps from a gen 3 3sge the same as the 3sgte?
Also, what about the water pump (this one I doubt..)

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 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:05 pm 
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Car Model: ST185 CS/RC
Power steering pump is the same. I have a used one out of a ST202 on the ST205 engine in my ST185 .

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niblettr
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:25 pm 
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thanks.

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martinking6
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:19 pm 
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Hiya chris 3sge and 3sgte water pumps are the same m8

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niblettr
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:21 pm 
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great.
One thing >> http://www.fensport.co.uk/Parts/Model_4 ... ory_5/2620
Why does it not state 3sgte as well??

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martinking6
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:27 pm 
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Tcb show them as the same


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two_OH_five
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 11:10 pm 
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I would be very wary unless the vendor can categorically confirm it's the plastic headed part.

My guess is a one size fits all part will be the sub optimal Windy Miller metal headed part
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niblettr
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:11 am 
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All the pumps Ive been looking at say they use metal prop. I'll just go for the £40 TCB part. :)

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niblettr
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:13 am 
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Hang on Steve, just re-read your post.. Are you saying the plastic one is the one to get? My pump on the block at the moment is a metal part....

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Nibbles
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:52 am 
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I'm guessing Steve is getting mixed up with water pump.

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Sirius
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:35 am 
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We talking about PS pumps water pumps or both? The first post mentions both :)

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two_OH_five
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:44 am 
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two_OH_five
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:55 am 
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niblettr wrote:
All the pumps Ive been looking at say they use metal prop. I'll just go for the £40 TCB part. :)


The last genuine Toyota part I bought was plastic. If you dig out my rebuilding a st215 engine thread you'll see the difference. The 205 housing is engineered for the plastic pump wheel and has clearances to suit. Will the metal one work - yes. Will it work optimally - probably not
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niblettr
 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:16 pm 
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So all the talk I've been seeing about plastic water pumps being inferior is a load of $hite??

go one then. who is going to volunteer to measure flow rate/pressure between a fitted plastic vs metal bladed water pump.... (snigger)

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 Post subject: Re: power steering pump
PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 5:35 pm 
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Sunny already did this. It´s ducumented in his build thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2908

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