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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:11 am 
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i use those on the supra. Can't complain about dry grip. they do let go every now and again when 2nd turbo comes in.

Drive with them today with a damp road, damn it was like on ice :(

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:14 am 
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I've found Goodyear to be a bit of a lottery. I think it's pot luck which plant they were made in. Some of the best tyres I've used habe been Goodyear, then go and get another set the same and slide all over the place.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:25 pm 
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No swap front & rear on a 2 !!!!!! Different sizes on all the ones mymates have had

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With Chris at the wheel swapping front and rear might just mean driving about more backwards than usual :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:29 pm 
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Nibbles wrote:
I've found Goodyear to be a bit of a lottery. I think it's pot luck which plant they were made in. Some of the best tyres I've used habe been Goodyear, then go and get another set the same and slide all over the place.


thats interesting to know. I really prefered the GDS3's but there not made anymore.

Saying that complaining about the supra sliding everywhere last night i jumped into the starlet and i found that to be extremely unstable on the same road so i think its more road conditions than anything else. Cold being the main thing. As i've pushed the supra and the glanza very hard in heavy rain we had summer time and no issues what so ever.

Yet last night no rain just damp and cold they were all over the road.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:03 pm 
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Tyres generally grip reasonably well in medium to heavy rain - up to the point of aquplaning - presumably as the surface is 'washed'

The worst conditions are dusty / salty roads with just enough water to turn into 'grease'. Either drizzle or even just dew combined with the hygroscopic effects of the salt. It's these conditions that sort the men from the boys tyre wise.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 3:10 pm 
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darrylp wrote:
No swap front & rear on a 2 !!!!!! Different sizes on all the ones mymates have had
Haha ...that won't stop Chris trying! :twisted:


Indeed it won't, however it'll only be briefly out of curiosity as the law states that if tyre sizes aren't matched then the wider or lower profile must be on the back - the penalty for tyre offences is 3 points / tyre. Seeing as the private industrial estate I'm on is one of the worst for the tyres I shouldn't need to go on the public road to try it.

Having checked the sizes in daylight, back is 235, front is 215. IMO 235 is too wide for a tyre to be effective on winter roads so may be part of the problem. I only run 205's on the 4 and that is 20% heavier.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:21 pm 
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Nibbles wrote:
Tyres generally grip reasonably well in medium to heavy rain - up to the point of aquplaning - presumably as the surface is 'washed'

The worst conditions are dusty / salty roads with just enough water to turn into 'grease'. Either drizzle or even just dew combined with the hygroscopic effects of the salt. It's these conditions that sort the men from the boys tyre wise.


sound about right then as that was the conditions last night. was just like ice

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:20 pm 
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I run Toyo Proxies T1-Sports on my Audi....
and I find them very good in both the dry and the wet.

Having said that, I'll be trying some Vredsteins next.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:09 pm 
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Muddy Water wrote:
Having said that, I'll be trying some Vredsteins next.


:roll:

Hope your insurance is up to date. Mind you, my experience of these is from 30 years ago, never gone ner them since.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:14 am 
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the vredesteins do have a god rep now but saying that I think tyres are a prime area for "I spent my money and I am right" shannanigans!

The only tyre to date I have been amazed at is the Michelin Pilot Sport both in price and performance, They are a league above anything I have used including the goodyear which is so far a second favourite.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:04 am 
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MPS worked very well on my old M3 too but when I put them on the ST205 they were disappointing. I know Steve had a more positive experience but maybe he wasn't wringing its neck :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:37 am 
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I think the more likely answer is the passing of time Don. Several years passed meaning several variations in compound
That's my biggest moan. When you find a tyre you like it's not the same proposition by the time you need a new set.
Unless you're talking about Bridgestone RE050 inflated. They have had consistently dire reviews for the last decade. Although I'm warming to mine, must have scrubbed the repmobile layer off :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:11 pm 
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I loved my T1Rs when new in the dry, can't comment in the wet as I never went "spastic", probably because they didn't give me any confidence (so were probably poor in wet conditions)
However, I will never buy them again as the wear rate it STUPIDLY quick, and when they start to wear, grip levels go VERY quickly (cliff edge...)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:21 pm 
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Sounds a bit like Formula 1 Pirelli's at this years British Grand Prix!

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:32 pm 
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I find tyres a very subjective thing and different drivers are more comfortable with different types of tyre.

my JDM gt4 is currently on a full set of khumhos which are brilliant up untill torential downpours some people dislike these and right them of as a cheap budget tyre.

I do quite like the Falcons and have never had issue with them but i do agree about the proxies and find these dont suit my driving style at all.

money no object i like the continental sport contact runflats again some people cant get to grips with these either.

I agree though that no tyre should be unpredictable as this is outright dangerous and i have found this with the toyo's that there was no warning


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