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what happened to the stuff posted last night? I`m pretty sure I didnt dream it


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This might seem daft but is there a virus somewhere? sometimes I see all the pictures I posted last night, sometimes I only see two pages with alot of the posts missing...they seem to come an go randomly. Is it my computer or the site??

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Hi Nial

This is under investigation

We're hoping that it's the ISP having a bit of an issue with the database


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Bit of thread resurrection going on.. apologies.

But did anyone get any further with developing the OEM charge cooler?

The lagging is a common thing to mention, obviously due to its location (thats been covered already). However does it make much of a difference?

Has anyone worked out what the main issue is with the OEM CC setup? Or is it a collaboration of a few negating factors?

One of my thoughts is taking the lagging to the next step. Encasing the charge cooler box with a larger box. Covering the bottom and sides of the CC, the top would be open and would seal against the bonnet This would of course seal against the main bonnet vent. Which as its name suggest should vent out heat, any thoughts on that?

It should reduce the heat soak from the turbo, manifold, engine etc. However it would ideally need some air flow. Depending on the shape of the boxing used airfeeds coming in from the bottom, allowing the hot air to rise out of the bonnet vent.

However I believe I have read that the CC pump only works on high throttle inputs. Would that perhap help the cooling issue while perhaps reducing the life of the pump. If the pump runs more often, surely that would be one step forwards in regard to keeping the charge temps down. If it does indeed only run under heavy loads, it may just not be possible to bring the temps back down. I guess it would give it a head start.

Any thoughts on my drivel?


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I have often thought about a second skin for the chargecooler fed with air from the defunct cambelt cover cooler Whether the airflow would be enough I don't know

I think an upgraded radiator would also help but for prolonged hard use you can't escape the fact tht TTE ultimately had to resort to a larger core

BTW the pump runs with the slightest whiff of throttle. Blipping the revs at idle will trigger it


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Hi,

i'am now using a TTE intercooler with a TTe swirlpot, a jabsco 80L/h pump an a custom front radiator, i do not have any measurments except some 30-60°C self adhensive strips (i never saw the 30°C mark coming)
the car feels very powerfull especially when it is hot
the other issue is that i drive a nearl oem engine at ~1bar boost and i'am sure the setup hits the biggest benefits once the new engine is running

205, i saw the airduct directs airflow unter the intecooler but has nothing to do with the cambelt

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Good call on the cambelt cooler! Very good idea indeed.

I guess if its being pushed in at a reasonable force is should help. Some routing of pipes for airflow would be required.

I guess these things, along with the larger core, may make it the best of both worlds.

Apologies about the incorrect pump running procedure. Just what one owner told me.

I haven't read up on the TTE parts. I presume they are like hens teeth or an extortionate amount of money?

Sunny sounds like a good setup, any pics?


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rare as hens teeth served on a bed of rocking horse poo and drizzled with unicorn snot

If you have to ask the price you can't afford it :lol:


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LMAO, so they aren't very common then ?

Is the charge cooler a permanently sealed unit? Is there much space for modification to it?

Its heading back to a full redesign of the CC unit ontop of the engine.


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Hi,

have a look at my project, there a several pics and measurements of the intercooler

http://gt4dc.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0

just a small update, we measured the ampere of the IC-pump after the custom front-radiator, the maximum consumption is now at 21-22A at start up and 17A when running

start up with oem front IC was 29-30A (which is the asolute boarder) and 20A when running

makes me think that the OEM front radiator makes a heavily restriction when using the jabsco pump

i think the heat transfer to the TMIC is not so much as many people think, this is becouse you just can feel the IC temp when your car didn't drive which means there is no air flow throught the engine bay, a factor that needs calculated

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Sunny, thanks for the link, I'm off to have a read now.

Good point about the airflow, perhaps thats something to be improved?!


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