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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 4:09 pm 
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I'd like to get some Eibach springs for my CS.
However I cannot see any evidence of the shocks being replaced since the car was first bought so I'm assuming they are still original.
The shocks on the car seem fine at the moment.
Is it worth buying the springs and fitting them, wait for the stock shocks to fail and then uprate new shocks?
I'm going to go for full 4 wheel alignment soon so if the springs are worth fitting now then I'll do that first before alignment.

Your opinions chaps.

Steve


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:23 pm 
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Got my answer now ta.
Gonna save for some Koni's, Eibachs and TRD TM's.
Should have the £££ by Autumn...? :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:51 pm 
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Hmmm,


I might actually go against the accfepted norm here and say yes ....... with a but

IF you are going to get a full alignment then having the springs on means you won't have to have this redone when you get the shocks fitted. It depends on what level of full alignment you're going for but after fitting lowering kit you really should be looking to reset camber as this will have changed. This will mean camber bolts are required ;)

The solution will be sub-optimal with tired shocks and stiffer springs but it will be servicable in the mean time. Just don't expect it to be perfect until everything is in place.

So to sum up, buy springs + camber bolts and get a full alignment. Datajon might be able to give you some suggestions for alignment and may even be able to do it for you ;)


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:49 pm 
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......of course the superstrut setup on the ST205 means that the camber won't change if you fit lowering springs. The rear camber may be slightly altered but there is an eccentric cam on the lower inboard TCA which you might find you can use to dial out some of the camber change although the rear toe might be compromised. TBH the change in geometry with 25mm lowering springs is negligible.

On the CS you could fit always adjustable pillowball top mounts as an alternative to camber bolts. This change in itself makes the car feel much more responsive.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:28 am 
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Cheers for the opinions chaps.
I have decided to go the whole hog if I'm to do it.

Dunno why camber bolts weren't used on the Celicas.
The MR2 mk1's had them which made it easier to setup.

These pillowball mounts sound good.....eliminating the need for camber bolts....mind you....the camber bolts are only about £5 each aren't they?

Another chap has said that stock shocks with Tein -37mm springs has been effective for him.
Then again he has a 205.


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