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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:35 pm 
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The choices are quite simple. TRD springs and dampers, whiteline adjustable rear ARB and a good check of all the suspension linkages to eliminate any play. Then throw an average alignment into the mix and you're going to have a car that handles much better than stock for minimum (lolololololol) outlay. For a slightly more adjustable setup then go with the Tein coilovers

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You'll end up with a car that handles beautifully (within the intrinsic chassis limits) on track but is a right pain in the proverbial on the potholed barely maintained surfaces that are the UK roads

Never was a truer word said :?
My standard(ish) ST205 with stock suspension, 16" wheels and 55 profile tyres is great for dealing with council potholes and so-called 'traffic-calming' features but I wouldn't take it anywhere near a track :)

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Just trying to setup angles to:

front toe 0mm
front camber -1°50' dx and -1°50' sx

rear toe 0mm
rear camber -1°00' dx and -1°00' sx

Problem is that is very difficul to setup front camber, because just slightly touching the banana arm will change it a lot!
But is it normal ?!?!?

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that doesn't sound normal to me. What readings are changing?

There is quite a lot of deflection in the suspension due to the oem rubber bushings but it should take quite a bit of effort (think hanging off the end of a breaker bar type force).

Sounds like there may be a bit of play in something somewhere
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two_OH_five wrote:
that doesn't sound normal to me. What readings are changing?



Front dx & sx camber values...




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There is quite a lot of deflection in the suspension due to the oem rubber bushings but it should take quite a bit of effort (think hanging off the end of a breaker bar type force).

Sounds like there may be a bit of play in something somewhere



I don't really know.... all the arms are new! :?

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Can you be a bit more precise on the "touch" and "change" aspects

Do you mean you rest your hand on it and camber changes by 0.5 degrees for example

Does camber change both sides when you touch one banana arm?

Does the toe change at the same time?

Are you setting it up with the suspension loaded i.e. cr on wheels?
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two_OH_five wrote:
Can you be a bit more precise on the "touch" and "change" aspects

Do you mean you rest your hand on it and camber changes by 0.5 degrees for example


Yes, just lightly pushing up the banana, its camber changes...


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Does the toe change at the same time?


IIRC no...

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Are you setting it up with the suspension loaded i.e. cr on wheels?


Yes, car on wheels...

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it's got to be a measurement issue imo.

If pushing the banana arm one side makes the measurements change both sides **at the same time** then I can't think of another reason unless the whole subframe is loose - I imagine you'd notice that!
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